{"id":368,"date":"2022-06-10T13:42:30","date_gmt":"2022-06-10T18:42:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/?p=368"},"modified":"2024-05-09T12:44:35","modified_gmt":"2024-05-09T17:44:35","slug":"scientism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/2022\/06\/10\/scientism\/","title":{"rendered":"Scientism"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Some while ago I was a member of a science-oriented online group.&nbsp; I noticed that many of the people in this group seemed to treat science as a sort of religion, rather than as an intellectual pursuit.&nbsp; I especially noticed that there were many unkind comments directed against people who believed &#8211; or claimed to believe &#8211; that the Earth was flat.&nbsp; Most of these comments were simply ridicule.&nbsp; They did not offer any evidence to show that the Earth was spherical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I commented on this.&nbsp; I claimed that most of us would not be able to demonstrate to someone that the Earth is actually spherical, based solely on what we personally could offer as evidence.&nbsp; I pointed out that we all had to take much of our scientific knowledge on faith.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The reaction to my comment was vehement but not surprising.&nbsp; Hardly anyone addressed the points I raised.&nbsp; Most went on about how there are photographs and travelers who have gone around the world, and so on.&nbsp; All true, but not what one personally can demonstrate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">A large number of people just insulted me for being stupid, believing in a flat Earth, how I was ignorant, yadda-yadda-yadda.&nbsp; They were insulting me as they insulted anyone else who believed in a flat Earth.&nbsp; They failed to notice that I had clearly stated in my comment that I agreed that the Earth was spherical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The vehement response was evidence of my claim &#8211; that many people in this group treated science as a religion or faith.&nbsp; I call this &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Scientism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">scientism<\/a>,&#8221; following this definition:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>excessive belief in the power of scientific knowledge and techniques<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">My comment had struck at their religion.&nbsp; Their reaction was mostly emotional and irrational.&nbsp; I was an infidel and needed to be punished.&nbsp; Or something.&nbsp; My original point had gotten lost in the uproar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">That the Earth is spherical was known to the ancient Greeks.&nbsp; Throughout much of history, educated people have known that the Earth was not flat.&nbsp; Columbus did not prove that the Earth was round.&nbsp; That was already known.&nbsp; But I still could not personally demonstrate to someone that the Earth was spherical.&nbsp; I couldn&#8217;t even demonstrate it to myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I have to accept this fact, without proof.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve seen the photos and heard about people circumnavigating the Earth.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve seen images taken from space; seen how ships seem to vanish from the bottom up, as they sail away over the horizon.&nbsp; But I have to accept this on faith.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">In fact, I have to accept most scientific facts on faith.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t have the time or resources to perform all the experiments to verify the claims that are made.&nbsp; I trust that others have already done this, that experiments have been confirmed.&nbsp; Sometimes, as in physics class, I have seen certain facts demonstrated.&nbsp; This gives me more confidence in those facts I can&#8217;t check.&nbsp; But most of what I know about science, I have to accept without solid proof.&nbsp; And that&#8217;s OK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">What I consider not OK is blindly accepting all science claims as true; and arrogantly ridiculing anyone who does not also accept these claims.\u00a0 This, I believe, is a <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.apaonline.org\/2018\/01\/25\/the-problem-with-scientism\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">problem<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some while ago I was a member of a science-oriented online group.&nbsp; I noticed that many of the people in this group seemed to treat science as a sort of religion, rather than as an intellectual pursuit.&nbsp; I especially noticed &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/2022\/06\/10\/scientism\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[31],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-368","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-social-commentary"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/368","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=368"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/368\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":760,"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/368\/revisions\/760"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=368"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=368"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/random-musings.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=368"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}